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Gnosis Garden Clone (Trichocereus cuzcoensis) Update

Gnosis Garden Clone (Trichocereus cuzcoensis)

Floyd from Magical Botanicals grew this from seed imported from Gnostic Garden. He brought about 24 of these seedlings to one of the early Australian conferences [Ethnobotanica 1 or 2 in 2001/2002] and sold them there. SAB bought a few and conference participants snapped up the rest. As well as these 24 plants, he also supplied an unknown number to a shop called Medicine Garden. All of these plants were sold as ‘Gnosis’ – a name either Floyd or Torsten from SAB decided on at the conference. That means that technically, Gnosis is a strain or regional form of T. cuzcoensis, not a clone. Though there are many similarities to the importer GNOSTIC GARDEN, the name is indeed „Gnosis Garden Clone”, not “Gnostic Garden Clone” or “Gnosis”. SAB sold all of their propagating stock at one stage, so they had to go back to their single display plant for prop material. Therefore, for the last 10 years or more all gnosis originating from SAB is indeed a clone from a single plant.
GNOSTIC GARDEN delivered Gnosis to a large number of smaller shops, who imported it into Australia in the late 90s or 2000s. The Gnosis Garden Clone (though not originally a clone, but later on) became of the most common clones in Australia at that time. It is very likely that this strain probably originated from Knize, who is (BY FAR) the biggest source for different types from the Tr. cuzcoensis group  and it´s very likely that Gnostic Garden got their stock from Knize; either directly or indirectly through the hands of another retailer or wholesaler. The wide distribution makes this clone one of the most common strains in Australia. It has massive long spines with rounded spine bases and a typical Cuzcoensis appearance. Due to the fact that Knize has offered all kinds of types from the Cuzcoensis group over the past 50 years, it´s probably not possible to pin this clone down to a certain KK number.

The GNOSIS GARDEN CLONE (GNOSTIC GARDEN) was also sold by the SAB nursery and can be bought from them.

Gnosis Trichocereus Mutant

Pic: MUTANT


gnosis-conv3rge

Photo: Conv3rge (Plant from the SAB store)

Gnosis Garden Clone

Gnosis

 

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

This clone was distributed by Karel Knize and the plant on the pictures was provided by our friend Trout from troutsnotes.com! The cutting was obtained in 2000. Another seed grown KK1670 was distributed by Shaman Australis but doesn´t seem to be available at this time.

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

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Trichocereus longispinus KK1670

Knize gives as Place of Origin:

Trichocereus longispinus KK1670 – Seeds originally collected from Cusco, Pisac, Peru at 2800m altitude.

 

This Picture is the One SAB has on their Site:

Trichocereus Longispinus SAB KK1670

Just like the Place of Origin already suggests, this is most likely some kind of Trichocereus cuzcoensis. New spine growth is yellow and very spiny. Unfortunately, we don’t have any more pics of this collection. We will add some more in the future.


Where to get seeds or cuttings of KK1670 Trichocereus longispinus?

Well, since this plant originally came from Knize, there aren´t that many sources for his plants or seeds but him. In addition to that, you might be lucky to get some cuttings from the SAB shop, who sold some of them every now and then. So far, I´ve only seen them available on the market once and only as a seedling. As this type is probably just one of the countless cuzcoensis forms out there, it will probably be labeled Trichocereus peruvianus on the open market and I don’t feel like it’s possible to distinguish it from other, similar Cuzcoensis relatives. The pics here show how variable the plant can be and it will be very hard to keep it apart from others.

If you bought this type of Trichocereus from Knize or someone else, please let me know because I´d love to see if this really deserves the name “longispinus”. From what I´ve seen in those pics, it´s not very different from some other Cuzcoensis Varieties that I know. I am currently thinking that it is nothing but a marketing name.

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Trichocereus carmaguensis KK1414 (Echinopsis camarguensis)

Trichocereus camarguensis

This is a very typical collection of Trichocereus camarguensis from Karel Knize. He assigned the collection number Trichocereus KK1414 for a collection site in Camargo, Bolivia, where this plant originally comes from.

The main database page for Trichocereus camarguensis can be found below.

I don´t know how much variation is within this local population but from the looks of it, I´d say it’s pretty typical for a Trichocereus camarguensis. The type locality of Trichocereus camarguensis was Cochabamba. Those plants can get up to 1 meter in size and grow bent over. They have up to 15 ribs, 10-13 radial spines and 1-3 middle spines. What makes this plant special are the yellow, almost white spines that differentiate it from Trichocereus Strigosus or Trichocereus Randalli.

Flowers of Trichocereus KK1414

: The flowers can be up to 22 centimeters in size, white with purple green sepals.

Fruit: The fruit of Trichocereus KK1414 is very small and only approx. 2-4 centimeters in diameter.

Trichocereus Camarguensis occurs in Bolivia, near Camargo.

Like mentioned before, Knizes collection number for this type is KK1414. He offered it various times on his seedlist. Some as Trichocereus KK1414 var. Nanus, KK1414 var. Nana. Everytime, it was collected at around 2800 meters altitude. There also is a KK1413 but I do not have pics nor any other information about it than that it´s a Camarguensis too. From Camargo. It was on Knizes 2004 SEED & PLANTS List.

Trichocereus KK1414 (Trichocereus camarguensis)

Check out our main plant database pages for Trichocereus pachanoi aka Echinopsis pachanoi here:

And Trichocereus bridgesii here:

Trichocereus scopulicola

Also check out our Trichocereus Facebook group here:

https://facebook.com/groups/trichocereus

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Trichocereus crassiarboreus (NN)

Trichocereus crassiarboreus is a plant that was discovered by Friedrich Ritter in 1957. When he found flowering specimens in 1964, he moved the species to Weberbauerocereus. I am not a specialist on Weberbauerocereus but I trust Ritters Experience on that ID. The species was later published by Karel Knize under the name Weberbauerocereus crassiarboreus but his description lacked substantial information and like the type locality, which made it impossible to have a baseline to compare against.

Karel Knize provided no photos for his collection, what makes it even more problematic to trace it back. Ritter wrote numerous interesting articles about this plant, including a complete description. Nonetheless, it seems that Knize´s description was the one that had priority. Because of that, Trichocereus crassiaboreus is now called Weberbauerocereus cuzcoensis. That also explains why Trichocereus crassiarboreus is nowhere to be found on most commercial seed and plant lists. At least not under this name. I have seen Weberbauerocereus cuzcoensis and it is a gorgeous plant that looks remarkably like a Trichocereus. I have never seen the flower of this species though. I also grew seeds from Karel Knize´s collection and they look a lot like Trichocereus glaucus so far.

Buy seed or plants of Trichocereus crassiarboreus:

The seed seller köhres once had some seeds of Trichocereus crassiarboreus/Weberbauerocereus cuzcoensis in stock. They are amazing plants and everyone should consider himself lucky to grow them. I might also add a flower description and a general description of this plant in the near future. But because it is not a real Trichocereus, I will push that back until I am done with the rest of the site!

Photos of Trichocereus crassiarboreus / Weberbauerocereus cuzcoensis

Check out our main plant database pages for Trichocereus pachanoi aka Echinopsis pachanoi here:

And Trichocereus bridgesii here:

Trichocereus scopulicola

Also check out our Trichocereus Facebook group here:

https://facebook.com/groups/trichocereus