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Gnosis Garden Clone (Trichocereus cuzcoensis) Update

Gnosis Garden Clone (Trichocereus cuzcoensis)

Floyd from Magical Botanicals grew this from seed imported from Gnostic Garden. He brought about 24 of these seedlings to one of the early Australian conferences [Ethnobotanica 1 or 2 in 2001/2002] and sold them there. SAB bought a few and conference participants snapped up the rest. As well as these 24 plants, he also supplied an unknown number to a shop called Medicine Garden. All of these plants were sold as ‘Gnosis’ – a name either Floyd or Torsten from SAB decided on at the conference. That means that technically, Gnosis is a strain or regional form of T. cuzcoensis, not a clone. Though there are many similarities to the importer GNOSTIC GARDEN, the name is indeed „Gnosis Garden Clone”, not “Gnostic Garden Clone” or “Gnosis”. SAB sold all of their propagating stock at one stage, so they had to go back to their single display plant for prop material. Therefore, for the last 10 years or more all gnosis originating from SAB is indeed a clone from a single plant.
GNOSTIC GARDEN delivered Gnosis to a large number of smaller shops, who imported it into Australia in the late 90s or 2000s. The Gnosis Garden Clone (though not originally a clone, but later on) became of the most common clones in Australia at that time. It is very likely that this strain probably originated from Knize, who is (BY FAR) the biggest source for different types from the Tr. cuzcoensis group  and it´s very likely that Gnostic Garden got their stock from Knize; either directly or indirectly through the hands of another retailer or wholesaler. The wide distribution makes this clone one of the most common strains in Australia. It has massive long spines with rounded spine bases and a typical Cuzcoensis appearance. Due to the fact that Knize has offered all kinds of types from the Cuzcoensis group over the past 50 years, it´s probably not possible to pin this clone down to a certain KK number.

The GNOSIS GARDEN CLONE (GNOSTIC GARDEN) was also sold by the SAB nursery and can be bought from them.

Gnosis Trichocereus Mutant



Photo: Conv3rge (Plant from the SAB store)

Gnosis Garden Clone



Trichocereus Longispina KK1670

Trichocereus Longispina KK1670

This Clone was distributed by Karel Knize and the Plant on the Pictures was provided by our Friend Trout from troutsnotes.com! The Cutting was obtained in 2000. Another Seed grown KK1670 was distributed by Shaman Australis but doesn´t seem to be available at this Time.

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Knize gives as Place of Origin:

Trichocereus Longispinus KK1670 – Seeds originally collected from Cusco, Pisac, Peru at 2800m altitude.

This Picture is the One SAB has on their Site:

Trichocereus Longispinus SAB KK1670

Just like the Place of Origin already suggests, this is most likely some kind of Trichocereus Cuzcoensis Variety. New Spine growth is yellow and very spiny. Unfortunately, we don´t have any more Pics of this Type as a larger plant. We will add some more in the Future.
Where to get seeds or cuttings of KK1670 Trichocereus Longispinus?

Well, since this plant originally came from Knize, there aren´t that many sources for his plants or seeds but him. In addition to that, you might be lucky to get some cuttings from the SAB shop, who sold some of them every now and then. So far, I´ve only seen them available on the market once and only as a seedling. As this type is probably just one of the countless Cuzcoensis varieties out there, it will probably be labeled Trichocereus Peruvianus or Cuzcoensis on the open market and I don´t feel like it´s possible to distinguish it from other, similar Cuzcoensis specimens. The pics here show how variable the plant can be and it will be very hard to keep it apart from others.

If you bought this type of Trichocereus from Knize or someone else, please let me know because I´d love to see if this really deserves the name “longispinus”. From what I´ve seen in those pics, it´s not very different from some other Cuzcoensis Varieties that I know. I am currently thinking that it is nothing but a marketing name.

Trichocereus Carmaguensis KK1414

 Trichocereus Carmaguensis KK1414

Synonyms: Echinopsis Camarguensis

This is a very typical Trichocereus Camarguensis from Karel Knize. He assigned the collection number KK1414 for a collection site in Camargo, Bolivia, where this plant originally comes from. I don´t know how much variation is within this local population but from the looks of it, I´d say it´s pretty typical for a Trichocereus Camarguensis. The typus location of Trichocereus Camarguensis was Cochabamba. Those plants can get up to 1 meter in size and grow bent over. They have up to 15 ribs, 10-13 radial spines and 1-3 middle spines. What makes this plant special are the yellow, almost white spines that differentiate it from Trichocereus Strigosus or Trichocereus Randalli.

Flowers: The flowers can be up to 22 centimeters in size, white with purple green sepals.

Fruit: The fruit is very small and only approx. 2-4 centimeters in diameter.

Trichocereus Camarguensis occurs in Bolivia, near Camargo.

Like mentioned before, Knizes collection number for this type is KK1414. He offered it various times on his seedlist. Some as KK1414 var. Nanus, KK1414 var. Nana. Everytime, it was collected at around 2800 meters altitude. There also is a KK1413 but I do not have pics nor any other information about it than that it´s a Camarguensis too. From Camargo. It was on Knizes 2004 SEED & PLANTS List.




Trichocereus Crassiarboreus (NN)

Trichocereus Crassiarboreus (NN)

Trichocereus Crassiarboreus is a plant that was discovered by Friedrich Ritter in 1957. When he found flowering specimens in 1964, he moved the species to Weberbauerocereus. I am not a specialist on Weberbauerocereus but I trust Ritters Experience on that ID. The species was later publicized by Karel Knize under the name Weberbauerocereus Crassiarboreus but his description lacked substantial information and if he wouldnt have mentioned the typus location, there wouldnt have been a chance to find that species again. Besides, Knize added no pics, what makes it even more problematic. Ritter wrote numerous interesting pieces on this plant, including a complete description. Nonetheless, it seems that Knize´s descripion was accepted. Because of that, Trichocereus Crassiaboreus is now called Weberbauerocereus Cuzcoensis. That also explains why Trichocereus Crassiarboreus isnt offered in most commercial seed and plant lists. If you are lucky, you might be able to get some labeled as Weberbauerocereus Cuzcoensis though.

Buy seed or plants of Trichocereus Crassiarboreus: The seed seller köhres still has some seeds of Trichocereus Crassiarboreus/Weberbauerocereus Cuzcoensis in stock. I have no idea about the viability but when I ordered some around 4 years ago, they were still viable and looked very much like what is shown on those pics from K.Trout! They are amazing plants and everyone should consider himself lucky to grow them. I might also add a flower description and a general description of this plant in the near future. But because it is not a real Trichocereus, I will push that back until I am done with the rest of the site!